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Concept Design Engagement - S. Eads Street (Army Navy Drive - 12th Street S.) Complete Streets

Review the concept design for this segment of the S. Eads Street corridor and help deliver complete streets improvements for all users in this developing area!

Thanks for sharing your perspectives with us as part of public engagement for this segment of the S Eads Street Complete Streets project! This engagement form will close on November 18, 2021.

Your experiences will help inform the development of a final concept design, along with other available information, such as plan guidance and crash data. Thank you for helping improve our projects to better meet your needs!

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Adjacent Developments

These designs will include an interim condition for southbound bicycle and pedestrian facilities. A final condition for the southbound side will be constructed in conjunction with the development of the adjacent PenPlace redevelopment.

The graphics below illustrate the general layout of the design plans in development:

For more details on the design proposals for the west side of this corridor, please visit the project page for the PenPlace Development and participate in their active public engagement efforts.
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Scudder Wagg Nov 18 2021 at 11:46AM on page 1

Suggestion
The design of parking on the curb and bike lane between parking and travel lane is not particularly safe and very uncomfortable for most people who want to ride bikes through here. Better to put the bike lane against the curb and parking between the bike lane and the travel lane.

Scudder Wagg Nov 18 2021 at 11:45AM on page 1

Suggestion
There's no indications here for the existing bus stop that serves WMATA Routes 7A (non-peak times), 22A and Loudoun Commuter Route 200. Need to adequately account for this mixing zone for the buses, or include a bus stop island somewhere in this area.

Nicholas Sarafolean Nov 17 2021 at 3:39PM on page 1

Suggestion
This area is a death trap by design. The parking must be on the outer edge of the bike lane and there should be physical protection between the two. Flexible posts don't cut it and are regularly ignored. Perhaps boltable plastic curbs could suffice as a temporary solution until PenPlace is finished and concrete can be used as a protection for the bike lane?
in reply to A Rosa's comment

Nicholas Sarafolean Nov 17 2021 at 3:36PM on page 1

Drivers should be ultra alert at this location. Each of us assumes great responsibility when we opt to travel by car, as it's the most dangerous mode of transportation for other road users, especially pedestrians and cyclists. I think it's great that we're finally working on infrastructure that slows cars down and makes drivers more alert in areas where there is an increased chance of conflict among road users. Speed of car travel can't be the priority in neighborhoods where people live, work, and play.

Nicholas Sarafolean Nov 17 2021 at 3:20PM on page 1

Suggestion
A great addition here would be a short left turn lane for westbound riders on the cycle track to turn left and go south on S. Eads Street, giving them room to stop for oncoming bike traffic without impeding the flow of westbound riders. See the 15th Street cycleway in DC for an example of left turn Lanes for bike riders.
in reply to Christina Andeweg's comment

Nicholas Sarafolean Nov 17 2021 at 3:15PM on page 1

Suggestion
Excellent idea. Physical infrastructure to slow cars will do much more to help the area than paint or signs.

Robert Mandle Nov 17 2021 at 11:10AM on page 1

Question
Curious what is causing the curb to move at this location? Are there utility covers that make the PBL dangerous? Do they need to be relocated?

Robert Mandle Nov 17 2021 at 11:06AM on page 1

Suggestion
This project MUST add crosswalks across Eads along 11th Street.

Robert Mandle Nov 17 2021 at 11:04AM on page 1

Suggestion
Echoing comments about adding hardened, physical separation to the facility along this entire corridor. Similar treatments to what is being built by Amazon along Met Park and likely Pen Place across the street would be logical.
in reply to Darren Buck's comment

Robert Mandle Nov 17 2021 at 11:03AM on page 1

Suggestion
Agree - was going to make the same comment

Arlington Resident Nov 16 2021 at 3:46PM on page 1

Suggestion
I'm sure I'm in the minority - but disappointed yet again in the constant loss of driving lanes with every new redesign of existing lanes. (e.g. angled / head-on parking spots along new Jennie Dean Park on 4MR).

William Buschur Nov 16 2021 at 10:43AM on page 1

Suggestion
You must use bollards to block cars from blocking the bike lane. Ideally, the bike lane should be grade separated entirely, but in a compromise configuration like this, only hard physical barriers are adequate to prevent encroachment by cars.
in reply to Herbert Wamsley's comment

Darren Buck Nov 15 2021 at 9:56PM on page 1

I have a family with children, I live in Aurora Highlands, and I would like my daughter to be able to ride around our neighborhood without being killed by a driver. 'More lanes' is not how that happens. I am a voter who drives, but desperately wished I lived in the place with planners devoted to creating what you fear.
in reply to Bernard Berne's comment

Darren Buck Nov 15 2021 at 9:49PM on page 1

Let's do away with all of Eads St, it is redundant. It is not needed because there are plenty of other wide paved alternative routes, such as nearby Fern St and Hayes St. To create biophilia, please plant moar milkweed on any number of the acres and acres and acres of space in our growing downtown such as this one that we are setting aside for passive parks, instead of things like schools, housing for living breathing people, a modern community center, or again because it's such a gaping hole in our neighborhood, schools.
in reply to Teresa Jakubowski's comment

Jenny Gerbi Nov 15 2021 at 9:40PM on page 1

Suggestion
Eliminating parking on the southbound lane would enable this, as well as a proper protected bike lane. PenPlace should provide any needed parking within itself. It's not that many spaces that are causing a huge bottleneck/safety issue here..

Jenny Gerbi Nov 15 2021 at 9:38PM on page 1

Suggestion
Please do not have parking to the right of the bike lane. Getting car doored is no fun, and there needs to be *complete physical protection against the travel lane* (or this will become another 'uber/doordash lane'). Parking is not, and should not, be the priority here. I would recommend to eliminate it on this side of the street entirely and put in a proper protected bike lane. This could enable the proper spacing of the bike lane on the other side of the street to avoid being doored from the other direction.

Bernard Berne Nov 12 2021 at 7:53PM on page 1

Suggestion
Pentagon City has many wide streets. Some have separated bike lanes or will soon have these. The proposed bike lanes on S. Eads Street will be redundant. They are not needed because the park contains wide paved alternative routes, as do nearby streets. To create biophilia, replace the bike lanes with green space containing trees and meadow/pollinator habitats.

Bernard Berne Nov 12 2021 at 7:38PM on page 1

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The street is too wide and serves too many purposes. There is a much greater need for green space than for bike lanes, especially because the park contains much pavement that cyclists will use. Replace the bike lanes with green space to improve the natural environment. Add trees and meadow/pollinator areas to replace the bike lanes. Make the street biophilic by replacing pavement with trees and pollinator habitat. The park has too little of these habitats.

Herbert Wamsley Nov 12 2021 at 6:23PM on page 1

Suggestion
Not enough lanes for vehicles on Eads Street. The street is experiencing backups already, near Whole Foods, with many projects still to be completed. Despite the ideological commitment by city planners, with respect, the voters want to travel primarily by car. I am 79 years old and cannot use other forms of transportation. I would guess that right now cars transport at least 20 times as many people on Eads as all other forms of transportation combined. The county board
is ruining the Crystal City/Aurora Hills neighborhood. We will see more cut-through traffic on residential streets such as Fort Scott Drive, where many families have children.
in reply to Christina Andeweg's comment

Darren Buck Nov 10 2021 at 8:04PM on page 1

Well said. I suggested a roundabout for this intersection during Pen Place discussions, which would slow vehicles. Failing that, a raised intersection would be a great treatment here.

Christina Andeweg Nov 10 2021 at 1:24PM on page 1

Suggestion
I feel like this is a good opportunity for a speed table or elevated crosswalks. Cars will likely be driving fast in order to get up to speed to get on the highway across Army Navy Drive. This will create an unsafe environment for pedestrians and cyclists.

With the new park, future Pen Place development and other projects in the neighborhood, it seems like this could be a very active pedestrian location. The County should do everything they can to ensure pedestrian safety, even if it means slowing cars down.
in reply to Zack D's comment

Carol Fuller Nov 9 2021 at 8:30PM on page 1

Suggestion
This is a popular left turn for cars. If you aren't taking the Express lanes, you have to turn left to get to the 395 entrance. I turn left here frequently. Just make it safe for bikers--and pedestrians. I walk here a lot too, and with the park, foot traffic will increase.

Carol Fuller Nov 9 2021 at 8:24PM on page 1

Suggestion
We understand from Amazon that they are proposing a traffic light here at the intersection with 11th Street. Though I understand this can't be included in your street design because the process is ongoing, it should be mandatory during the SPRC process for PenPlace. Otherwise, you will need speed humps and painted crosswalks.
in reply to Ben D'Avanzo's comment

Carol Fuller Nov 9 2021 at 8:20PM on page 1

Suggestion
The vagueness of what 11th Street will look like after all the construction is unsettling. Will this become a major thoroughfare, even though going right through the middle of the hotel? Plus this will be a major pedestrian crossing from 11th Street to PenPlace and crosswalks will be essential.
Colored pavement at that intersection is a minimum. Please consider speed humps.

Teresa Jakubowski Nov 9 2021 at 7:47PM on page 1

Suggestion
I don't understand the purpose of this. There currently is street parking all along this area. As the area becomes even more congested even the current parking provided will not be sufficient, so it is important to preserve the limited street parking that presently is provided.

Teresa Jakubowski Nov 9 2021 at 7:39PM on page 1

Suggestion
There needs to be a left turn lane here so that southbound traffic can keep moving.
in reply to Grant Mandsager's comment

ngraham Nov 9 2021 at 12:03PM on page 1

Hi Darren! This is incorrect. On page T300.6 of the 100% design documents for Army Navy Drive Complete Streets, you can see the signal plan for this intersection has NRTOR signage for both Eastbound Army Navy drive and for Northbound S. Eads Street.

This condition is consistent for all intersections along the Army Navy Drive Corridor from Joyce to 12th Street S. There are no right turns on red permitted along the planned cycle track anywhere along the corridor.

- NSG
in reply to Darren Buck's comment

Darren Buck Nov 8 2021 at 12:58PM on page 1

Largely because of the superfluous right turn lane on the other side of Eads, that their separate project for that block hopefully gets rid of, both to shorten/align the ped crossing, and to reduce conflicts for bicyclists. link

Thomas Dunbar Nov 8 2021 at 10:23AM on page 1

Suggestion
Please put in a protected bike lane on the southbound side of the street. There is a protected bike lane on the northbound side.

Erol Morey Nov 7 2021 at 1:54PM on page 1

Suggestion
The pedestrian walk light is automatic for those crossing Eads. You have to push a button to get a walk signal to cross Army Navy - a much more dangerous street. Put an automatic walk light here as you did during the pandemic.
in reply to Grant Mandsager's comment

Pamela Van Hine Nov 5 2021 at 8:19PM on page 1

Suggestion
It's not safe for peds either.
in reply to Guus Bosman's comment

Pamela Van Hine Nov 5 2021 at 8:18PM on page 1

Suggestion
Any "parking" around the PenPlace megablock should be used for part of PBL and for PUDO only (including very short term stops by private vehicles for child care and other people drop off/pick up).
in reply to Elizabeth Gallagher's comment

Pamela Van Hine Nov 5 2021 at 8:15PM on page 1

I thought the PenPlace plan is for a real PBL - with "parking" (PUDO?) on the outside.
in reply to Steve Wahoski's comment

Pamela Van Hine Nov 5 2021 at 8:13PM on page 1

Suggestion
This is NOT a fun/safe crossing for peds either.
in reply to Grant Mandsager's comment

Pamela Van Hine Nov 5 2021 at 8:11PM on page 1

Suggestion
We need no right on red EVERYTHWERE - and enforcement (automated)!
in reply to Zack D's comment

Pamela Van Hine Nov 5 2021 at 8:10PM on page 1

Suggestion
What are the turning numbers? I suspect that the left turn is needed - as it is needed at 12th. Can peds have a protective median to keep us safe from turning vehicles?
in reply to Darren Buck's comment

Pamela Van Hine Nov 5 2021 at 8:06PM on page 1

Suggestion
And park plans did not address how ped can cross 11th street here safely.....
in reply to Darren Buck's comment

Pamela Van Hine Nov 5 2021 at 8:04PM on page 1

Suggestion
I think DES is evaluating/will evaluate need with
PenPlace project (but it's necessary for turns into buildings east of Eads as well.
in reply to Ben D'Avanzo's comment

Pamela Van Hine Nov 5 2021 at 8:03PM on page 1

Suggestion
I think the PenPlace plans shows one - and a traffic light here. Do these plans need updating?
in reply to Dana Bres's comment

Pamela Van Hine Nov 5 2021 at 8:02PM on page 1

Suggestion
Need to protect both cyclists and peds from turning vehicles
in reply to Darren Buck's comment

Pamela Van Hine Nov 5 2021 at 8:00PM on page 1

Suggestion
good question - it should be at least 10' clear zone!
in reply to Darren Buck's comment

Pamela Van Hine Nov 5 2021 at 7:59PM on page 1

Question
Agreed - and why are the crosswalks so out of alignment?

Steve Wahoski Nov 5 2021 at 5:13PM on page 1

Question
I'm traveling on bicycle northbound on Eads and need to make a left-hand turn onto Army-Navy. Will there be a bicycle turn signal like the ones at the intersection of Pennsylvania Avenue and 15th Street in DC? If no, where do I make the turn? From the traffic lane or the bike lane? And when do I make the turn? With the pedestrian cross walk signal, or with the green traffic signal for Eads Street going northbound? (P.S. reCAPTCHA just asked me to identify pictures with a crosswalk. Most drivers in Arlington would fail this test, since they don't know what a crosswalk is or how to approach it.)
in reply to Ben D'Avanzo's comment

Susan English Nov 5 2021 at 1:27PM on page 1

Agree. Alert users with color.
in reply to Darren Buck's comment

Susan English Nov 5 2021 at 1:13PM on page 1

Agree. Lyft/Uber drivers will sit here, and pu/do here if not made impossible.

Dana Bres Nov 5 2021 at 7:18AM on page 1

For the interim approach, swap the parking and bike lanes. Will help to get the motorists trained and could be done at little cost

Dana Bres Nov 5 2021 at 7:17AM on page 1

How will you prevent vehicles from using this area as parking? While enforcement might be considered, Arlington's enforcement effort in this regard is consistently ineffective. An engineering solution is needed.

Dana Bres Nov 5 2021 at 7:13AM on page 1

Suggestion
Reduce the radius of this turn to slow vehicles entering and exiting

Dana Bres Nov 5 2021 at 7:08AM on page 1

Suggestion
Please use a raised barrier rather than flex posts. Vehicles regularly damage flex posts and they provide little actual safety to those being protected.

Dana Bres Nov 5 2021 at 7:06AM on page 1

Question
Please describe the plan for maintaining this grass median strip. Will it be mowed by DES or DPR? What provisions will exist to keep vehicles off the grass?
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